tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post8966084488646951084..comments2024-03-21T07:58:02.168-05:00Comments on Amateur Mormon Historian: The Family of Charles Houston ChurchBrucehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01543519825711760773noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post-83764908613687249372012-02-29T09:31:20.094-06:002012-02-29T09:31:20.094-06:00Anon,
Do you have dates for their baptism? I foun...Anon, <br />Do you have dates for their baptism? I found the 1841 date in Hayden's biography - written by his wife, Sarah - but it does not name Abraham or any of Charles brothers as being there too.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01543519825711760773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post-48922324481264677822012-02-28T00:16:06.869-06:002012-02-28T00:16:06.869-06:00Charles Houston Church is my husband's gg gran...Charles Houston Church is my husband's gg grandfather. His family records indicate that Charles and his wife Dolly joined the church before their son Utah was born. Charles and his 2nd wife Sara Eliza Voss and named a daughter Eliza Snow Church b. 1890, and a son Parley Pratt Church b. 1896. Church family descendants claim that Abraham went to Nauvoo with his oldest son Hayden in 1841 to meet the prophet Joseph Smith, and that he (Abraham) also joined the church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post-66694004640657660922010-09-24T12:38:31.780-05:002010-09-24T12:38:31.780-05:00And a very reasonable explanation at that. One rea...And a very reasonable explanation at that. One reason I post here is for exactly the kind of insight you have shared. Thank you.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01543519825711760773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post-86952015600906289912010-09-24T12:20:13.883-05:002010-09-24T12:20:13.883-05:00Yeah, obviously I don't know anything about th...Yeah, obviously I don't know anything about the real date of their conversion, but if you were to find that it came after "Utah"'s birth, at least there's a plausible alternate explanation for the name.Ardis E. Parshallhttp://www.keepapitchinin.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post-89325206312782999392010-09-24T09:31:04.728-05:002010-09-24T09:31:04.728-05:00I have seen Eutaw streets in several cities. I eve...I have seen Eutaw streets in several cities. I even laughed when I saw the corner of Eutaw and Pratt in downtown Baltimore. I had no idea of the origin.<br /><br />At least one of Charles' brothers [Haden Wells Church] was baptized in 1840, and B. H. Roberts claimed two others had been baptized before 1847 (i.e. in Nauvoo), though I have no dates for the last two. And since it was a story told in 1884, after their death, I took it with a grain of salt. [I have several examples of Roberts not being particular about getting details right in his stories. But that is a subject for another post.]<br /><br />So, I was willing to accept that at the very least he could have had a favorable opinion of the Mormons. When his son was born [and when the record wrote "Utah" in the 1860 census] he had a brother living in Utah. That brother returned to Tennessee in 1870 and reportedly baptized several of his relatives. I'm guessing that was when he was probably baptized the first time. Again I have no dates.<br /><br />Of course, none of the negates what you suggest. Charles father was from North Carolina and would have known the revolutionary war site. And the census record still could have thought he heard "Eutaw" in 1870.Brucehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01543519825711760773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2645379631135547997.post-53591371988713225652010-09-24T08:59:21.602-05:002010-09-24T08:59:21.602-05:00I wonder if the census enumerator's recording ...I wonder if the census enumerator's recording of "E. Church" meant that he interpreted what he heard as "Eutaw," as in Eutaw Springs and Eutawville, site of one of the Revolutionary War battles in South Carolina? Until you have evidence of their earlier conversion, it might be cautious to consider that the Churches themselves might have been thinking "Eutaw" originally and only translated that to "Utah" after conversion.Ardis E. Parshallhttp://www.keepapitchinin.orgnoreply@blogger.com